[He can't blame all of this on Alex, but at least a few of the ones he knows are his fault. A few others were ones he picked up from overhearing other classmates talking. Most just came from the internet.]
shouldn't be hard the kind of bad movies people watch on purpose aren't like that a lot of the time a lot more monsters and bad special effects, a lot less weird disturbing navel gazing if that makes sense
[Jay has a couple "auteurs" he'll be sure to avoid. Mostly because their stuff's actually "good", he guesses, from a stars-or-thumbs-or-whatever perspective, but also because it sounds like Tim wouldn't take them too well.]
there's more "bad" movies out there than "good" ones so at least some of them have something that makes them worth looking at even if it's just that it's so bad it's funny
easier to make something people hate than something everybody likes
he told me he didn't have time for the bad stuff though yeah i know ha ha but that's what he said i dunno i guess i feel like every movie's somebody's hard work even if it's shit there's usually something in there that makes it worth watching some of this stuff just gets totally lost goes out of print and nobody preserves it or anything and it's just gone and tape decays yknow dvds do too like really fast
[He asked about Alex. He didn't ask for Jay's opinions on archiving or film preservation or any of that. It's pedantic bullshit is what it is, and nobody wants to hear it, least of all from a guy who couldn't even get a job as a boom operator doing local news.]
didn't really study it but you pick stuff up
[There were a couple months junior year when he thought grad school was an option. Some schools had film archive programs. He could've moved. Wasn't like he had any major ties to home.]
[Didn't care enough, though. Didn't even manage to take an elective in it. Just kept on the same track he always did. So he doesn't know about stuff like that, not really. All he has is a bunch of weird, useless trivia that sticks around when everything else gets wiped out.]
[Jay rereads Tim's message. "guess i never really thought about it that way." Most likely just something to say, because what the hell do you say when someone just...goes...like he did? But maybe his rambling bullshit wasn't a complete waste of a message, if Tim got something out of it.]
[Is this how conversations are supposed to work?]
did you and clem decide on when all this is happening
[He doesn't wanna get into it. That's fine. Understandable, even. Probably bringing up all sorts of unpleasant and unwanted memories and goddamnit, fuck, this is absolutely his fault for bringing up Alex in the first place. Couldn't think before you stuck your foot in your mouth, could you, Tim?]
just need to know when to get the movies by and where to bring them
[Back in familiar territory. They're making plans, keeping the conversation limited to what's concrete. What time. Where. Who's driving. How long before we turn in for the night.]
[Tim doesn't want to hear it. Tim doesn't want to hear it. Tim doesn't want to hear it.]
[But Jay has to make sure, doesn't he?]
did you know the stuff they used to make old nitrate film with was the same stuff they used to make flash paper and guncotton
[He could've just left it, but no. Had to keep going, had to goad Tim further, until he actually says it.]
[They're back on ground Tim knows how to navigate for a fleeting moment, and he figures he should probably shoot Clem a text to let her know that, yes, she is indeed doomed to suffer through what is bound to be the most crushingly awkward movie night of all time. If they're going to put anyone through it, at least it's someone who doesn't necessarily have a metric by which these things usually go - which is kind of a dick thought to have, so he tries to scrub it out.]
[Fortunately, Jay helps by sending him that little fun fact right the hell out of nowhere. Tim blinks a few times to process it, grateful at least for the barrier of text between them. If he takes too long to answer, Jay might - ]
[Oh my god, just answer.]
huh.
[What gripping conversation they're having!!]
does that mean that stuff was really flammable or something?
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[Ah yes, Jay thinks, this is why he never engages in social interation. He's getting stressed out over a movie night.]
how many movies are happening tonight
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no
i meant
it's less awkward if its more than just yknow
me
alone
in front of a tv watching a movie
one person
but we can combine plans sure
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i mean
we don't have to
i'm just not really the movie guy
you know
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He scrolls back up, to where Tim described him and Clem's plans. Bad movies. He can do bad movies.]
sure
you want me to pick out one, or should i get i dunno
a pile so you guys can choose
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[There's a joke about Marble Hornets in there. But they're both probably better off not thinking about Alex Kralie. Not right now.]
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side effect of studying this stuff
or just hearing alex complain long enough
or just who i am as a person i guess
[He can't blame all of this on Alex, but at least a few of the ones he knows are his fault. A few others were ones he picked up from overhearing other classmates talking. Most just came from the internet.]
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[He could be Alex, yuk yuk]
are you sure?
seriously we don't have to
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[Is he sure?]
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[Screw it, why not.]
nah let's do it
you have a genre preference?
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nothing psychological
i guess
[It's too much like his life.]
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got it
shouldn't be hard
the kind of bad movies people watch on purpose aren't like that a lot of the time
a lot more monsters and bad special effects, a lot less
weird disturbing navel gazing
if that makes sense
[Jay has a couple "auteurs" he'll be sure to avoid. Mostly because their stuff's actually "good", he guesses, from a stars-or-thumbs-or-whatever perspective, but also because it sounds like Tim wouldn't take them too well.]
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but if anyone starts talking about loops of unhappiness i'm gonna throw up
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gonna steer clear of anything involving a college guy going back to his hometown
just to be safe
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there's even one with an assassin
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are there other plots to bad movies out there
or is that just the go-to
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thank god
there's more "bad" movies out there than "good" ones
so at least some of them have something that makes them worth looking at
even if it's just that it's so bad it's funny
easier to make something people hate than something everybody likes
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never mind
forget i said that
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some of it
he told me he didn't have time for the bad stuff though
yeah i know ha ha but that's what he said
i dunno i guess i
feel like every movie's somebody's hard work
even if it's shit
there's usually something in there that makes it worth watching
some of this stuff just gets totally lost
goes out of print and nobody preserves it or anything and it's just gone
and tape decays yknow
dvds do too like really fast
never mind i don't even know how i got on this
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[Let's not mince the blame here. He knows full well why it is Jay got on this tangent, and it's because Tim couldn't keep his fucking mouth shut.]
guess i never really thought about it that way
didn't know you knew about stuff like that
[Because he didn't ask.]
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didn't really study it but you pick stuff up
[There were a couple months junior year when he thought grad school was an option. Some schools had film archive programs. He could've moved. Wasn't like he had any major ties to home.]
[Didn't care enough, though. Didn't even manage to take an elective in it. Just kept on the same track he always did. So he doesn't know about stuff like that, not really. All he has is a bunch of weird, useless trivia that sticks around when everything else gets wiped out.]
[Jay rereads Tim's message. "guess i never really thought about it that way." Most likely just something to say, because what the hell do you say when someone just...goes...like he did? But maybe his rambling bullshit wasn't a complete waste of a message, if Tim got something out of it.]
[Is this how conversations are supposed to work?]
did you and clem decide on when all this is happening
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[No. God fucking forbid.]
[Jay changes the subject. He lets him.]
not really
why you have a preference
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and where to bring them
[Back in familiar territory. They're making plans, keeping the conversation limited to what's concrete. What time. Where. Who's driving. How long before we turn in for the night.]
[Tim doesn't want to hear it. Tim doesn't want to hear it. Tim doesn't want to hear it.]
[But Jay has to make sure, doesn't he?]
did you know the stuff they used to make old nitrate film with was the same stuff they used to make flash paper and guncotton
[He could've just left it, but no. Had to keep going, had to goad Tim further, until he actually says it.]
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[Fortunately, Jay helps by sending him that little fun fact right the hell out of nowhere. Tim blinks a few times to process it, grateful at least for the barrier of text between them. If he takes too long to answer, Jay might - ]
[Oh my god, just answer.]
huh.
[What gripping conversation they're having!!]
does that mean that stuff was really flammable or something?
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